Roy Greenhilt (
greatcleavage) wrote in
lifenet2017-11-21 10:05 pm
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I have at various points defended the Storyteller as a being that deserves a presumption of good faith. I am recanting that defense. By word and deed, the Storyteller has demonstrated that it is capricious, untrustworthy, and ultimately unconcerned with our survival.
Fact: The Storyteller does not provide useful information. It may be bound by an immense number of rules and restrictions that forbid it from doing so... but in every interaction it has been explicitly unhelpful and unforthcoming.
Fact: Although the Storyteller professes to regret our suffering and travails, it has explicitly forbidden us from setting up any defenses around the mana pool in its temple -- despite enemies having demonstrably penetrated through to the islets and assaulted and captured us in our sleep.
Fact: The Storyteller has openly encouraged me to abandon my principles and beliefs, while pretending it is not doing so. (It has also gone to some effort to mock those principles and beliefs.)
Pretty sure this is a fact: the Storyteller is taking petty revenge on me for calling out its behavior as capricious and untrustworthy.
I want to be absolutely clear that regardless of the Storyteller's intentions, we can only judge it by its actions. While it may mean the best by its own perspective, its perspective of what is 'best' for us clearly does not resemble our own. We must, unfortunately, consider it an enemy by that standard. Furthermore, gods are still fallible.
I am not advocating direct action against it, nor am I saying we have any other alternative at present than to accept we are, unavoidably, its playthings. But we need to know that's what we are, and view our interactions accordingly. We cannot trust it.
And incidentally, if anything suspicious should happen to me after writing this, take that as what evidence you should.
~Roy Greenhilt
Fact: The Storyteller does not provide useful information. It may be bound by an immense number of rules and restrictions that forbid it from doing so... but in every interaction it has been explicitly unhelpful and unforthcoming.
Fact: Although the Storyteller professes to regret our suffering and travails, it has explicitly forbidden us from setting up any defenses around the mana pool in its temple -- despite enemies having demonstrably penetrated through to the islets and assaulted and captured us in our sleep.
Fact: The Storyteller has openly encouraged me to abandon my principles and beliefs, while pretending it is not doing so. (It has also gone to some effort to mock those principles and beliefs.)
Pretty sure this is a fact: the Storyteller is taking petty revenge on me for calling out its behavior as capricious and untrustworthy.
I want to be absolutely clear that regardless of the Storyteller's intentions, we can only judge it by its actions. While it may mean the best by its own perspective, its perspective of what is 'best' for us clearly does not resemble our own. We must, unfortunately, consider it an enemy by that standard. Furthermore, gods are still fallible.
I am not advocating direct action against it, nor am I saying we have any other alternative at present than to accept we are, unavoidably, its playthings. But we need to know that's what we are, and view our interactions accordingly. We cannot trust it.
And incidentally, if anything suspicious should happen to me after writing this, take that as what evidence you should.
~Roy Greenhilt

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They help. Trading, but they don't have to, aren't required. They warn when they can. Things aren't always the same as they are for people. You're acting as if they are one.
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I don't know. It hasn't happened. They haven't done that. So how can I know?
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That isn't enough for you, so I'm wondering what is.
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One of them hurt people, innocent people, and let others take the blame.
One of them is going to. Because he has to. Thinks he has to, even though he doesn't want to, takes no joy in it. End one world to fix his mistake. Halam'shivanas.
It's wrong.
But I still trust them.
...The Storyteller. They're more like me. Maybe that makes it easier.
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One of them killed so many beings on the planet out of spite and vengeance that the number is probably in six digits if not seven.
One of them's just an idiot, really.
I trust them all because they've earned it. They made mistakes, they did bad things, some absolutely aren't good people, but they have stood by me in doing what we need to do.
The Storyteller hasn't. Even their beneficial deeds are transactional. They've made a lot of good noise about empathy and apologies, but for whatever reason, maybe even a good one that we do not know, their actions have ranged from neutral to self-serving to inscrutably harmful to us. I can't trust that. I can trust certain parameters of that, but I can't trust the being theirself.
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What bridge?
We have a bridge?
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Would it be a favor? Isn't talking the point of this?
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That's essentially what you're advocating, and that's why you're making Roy angry. Upset, even.
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He wants to make them an enemy. But they aren't, they haven't hurt us. They're kind. I know they are. We should be on the same side. Bad things might happen if we're not.
We can care about our feelings and theirs too.
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If Roy shouldn't talk, you've also said more than you should.
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I don't believe so. What did he say?
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Regardless, we have no evidence to either conclusion.
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